For this month and most of the next I'll be looking at all ten volumes of Scalped, a sixty issue Vertigo series that debuted in 2007 and ended in 2012. It is a crime noir story that initially has us following the story of American Indian Dashiell Bad Horse as he returns to the Oglala Lakota Prairie Rose tribal reservation in South Dakota a couple of weeks before a new casino opens. The rez is racked by poverty, politics, alchoholism and drug addiction as the people span two worlds, the ancient Indian culture that some still cling too and the modern world which has abandoned them. After the initial focus on Dashiell the story opens up, with side characters given their turn in the sun building up a more complex picture of life in and around the rez. With the ongoing investigation of an FBI agent with a grudge into corrupt tribal leader Lincoln Red Crow there is a lot of death and misery portrayed here, but with enough brighter spots to prevent darkness induced audience apathy setting in. The writer is Jason Aaron and the main artist is R. M Guera, with some fill in artists along the way. This is split into two arcs, Indian Country and Hoka Hey. So lets begin.
INDIAN COUNTRY: We begin with a shabby drunken man who we later find out is called "Catcher" talking to his horse "Festus". He says he can smell it on the wind, "I'll be goddamned if we ain't in for one helluva shitstorm". Elsewhere a man has come to a Indian drinking establishment and goads them into fighting him, the man Shunka asks if he is trying to commit suicide? The man has been winning a lot of fights lately, now Boss Red Crow wants a word with him.
Dashiell Bad Horse. |
Later Dashiell has been dragged, badly beaten into the unfinished casino and handcuffed to a chair in Red Crow's office. Red Crow says he wasn't expecting him back here, and he's impressed with his fighting prowess. "I'm fair to middlin' I reckon" responds Dashiell.
Red Crow says he though Dash might remember his "uncle Red Crow as someone not to be fucked with". He makes a crude remark about Dash's mother and that Dash left the rez when he was thirteen on track to become as big as waste of space as his father, then:
Red Crow: "I may be long in winters kid. But I still know a thing or two about a thing or two.... most important, I know how to take a big knife, make an incision from the forehead to the back of the neck... and tear someone's fucking scalp off."
Dash isn't intimidated. Red Crow says he's been away from "The People" too long, he has no troubles with the law himself he's the President of the Oglala Tribal Council now. Also Sheriff of the Tribal Police and chairman of various commitees and finally managing director of this new casino.
Lincoln Red Crow and Dash chat. |
Three days later, he and the cops and Red Crow's enforcers led by Shunka are gathered outside a house where the protestors meet. They start to make a plan, but impatiently Dash just kicks the door down. They get everyone on the floor in there and start making arrests. Thirty minutes later a woman called Gina shows up, she's one of the protest leaders and she is told there was a stockpile of explosives and unlicensed firearms in there. She asks one of the protestors if that's right and he says that "protest signs ain't winning us shit. This is a fucking war".
A white man says he's right, Gina tells him to shut the hell up. She yells at them that they are just givin Red Crow excuses to run them off the rez, "we can only win this fight by staying true to the old ways". Red Crow wants to corrupt them with gambling but his greed will be his undoing and... then she sees Dash and tails off.
Gina Bad Horse and Diesel. |
Gina calms the situation saying that "this fascist prick isn't worth it." She calls the white man "Diesel" and says the rest of them should leave now. They depart and Shunka says Gina must have been a fine lay thirty years ago. Dash says she seems like a cold hearted bitch to him. Shunka says "you'd know I guess.. she's your mother."
Carol. |
Red Crow: "She's a whore and a liar. And if you got a lick o' goddamn sense... you'll stay way the hell away from her."
They drive some more and Red Crow tells Dash about a protest group he was part of thirty years ago. But in 1975 two Federal Agents stumbled onto their land unannounced and got shot, "you'd have thought the fucking world ended." He believes the casino will change things, they'll take back the money the white man took from them.
Dash says he never gave a shit about all this Lakota bullshit before "and I certainly don't care now." Not the powwow, or the rain dance or stories about the good old, bad old days. "The Indian wars are over and you guys fuckin' lost. So you can take your great spirit and you can blow it out your ass." Red Crow laughs and says "welcome to the world of the disenchanted. Welcome home."
One week later we meet two FBI agents a younger one called Newsome and his boss Agent Nitz. Nitz grills Newsome on what he's learned about Lincoln Red Crow. It's quite a rapsheet, including drug trafficking, illegal arms, prostitution and running his own private army of thugs. Nothing can be proven though, "welcome to Indian country" says Nitz.
Someone approaches and they kill the car lights. They secure the perimeter and get ready to shoot whoever is coming their way. The person is expected, he's part of Nitz's new angle on nailing Red Crow. And the person finally reaches them.
Nitz: "We wanna keep this rendezvous real intimate like. Just you, me... and FBI Special Agent Dashiell Bad Horse."
Newsome is surprised that "this redskin punk is a Federal Agent?" Nitz introduces them. They are still pointing guns at each other and Dash says if Newsome pulls the trigger he'll be doing him a favour. "Tough first week on the job" sneers Nitz.
Dash's secret revealed. |
Dash approaches him and Dino babbles that he just met them and he isn't a meth dealer or a tweaker. He was just running errands for them to get money to get his car running. He begs not to be busted as he still has three months on paper. Dash fixes him with a hard stare, then lets him go saying he better not see him near a meth lab again.
Dash threatens Dino Poor Bear. |
Then officer Falls Down appears and takes the drugs away saying that whenever evidence is left in his boys hands it tends to disappear. Falls Down is the only tribal cop not on Red Crow's payroll. Red Crow wasn't overly thrilled about that. Shunka scowls and Red Crow whispers, "I know what you're thinking. Just hold that thought."
Four days ago Dash approaches Officer Falls Down who says if he was sent to kill him "I'd say I'm a tad insulted." Dash says he's not meant to kill him, at least not yet. They chat for a bit then Dash asks about his name.
Falls Down: "Redskin 101, Officer Bad Horse. We don't all get cool animal names".
They banter some more then Falls Down advises him to get some sleep, he looks like shit. It seems like it's not working out how he planned, "playin' Injun" and he walks away from Dash.
Back in the present Dash tells Nitz that it's not going to work, he's been beat to shit, shot at and almost killed. And he has no idea what he's supposed to be doing, "I got no backup. Nothin' I'm out here all alone." Then we go back to three days ago, Dash is playing pool in a bar and he's approached by Carol, Red Crow's daughter.
She tells him he broke her fucking heart when he left, he says his mum sent him, Carol says it was for a little while but he never came back. He left his sweetheart alone "on this goddamn pigsty of a rez". Dash makes the excuse that he was theirteen. Carol says she let him watch her pee isn't that some lasting commitment, "speakin' of which... I'm still waitin' on ya to show me yours."
Carol attempts some seduction. |
And her husband walks in calling her a "goddamn fuckaholic hussy". And who the hell is Dash? She rages at her husband to get off her ass, he yells back "how 'bout you learn to keep your clit in your goddamn pants?" Dash then gets a call over the radio telling him to come to a drunken brawl in progress and he gladly leaves.
Two days ago, Red Crow is at an emergency council meeting and not happy about it. The others on the council have concerns, like the hiring of Gina Bad Horse's son to be a tribal cop. Red Crow says it was for muscle and nothing more. They think he has a soft spot for the protestors seeing as he used to be one. Red Crow angrily says haven't they more important things to be doing putting their cousins on the tribal payroll? The others depart saying he's only Chief because they let him and leave as he says to himself, "just keep thinkin' that, you fuckin' dipshits."
When they are gone, Shunka says they are right about Dash, he's "too much of a goddamn cowboy". He keeps to himself and has a hell-for-leather and a smart-ass attitude. He respects no one, not him or Red Crow. He supposed to be shadowing Falls Down but it seems he has eyes for Red Crow's daughter. Red Crow says nothing.
Elsewhere a man with a skull-like burned face has been contacted by someone, a hit is being arranged through him. He is delighted at the prospect of some violence. Red Crow on the phone to him says:
Red Crow: "I don't want him 'harmed' Lister. I want him dead. And I'd rather you didn't set everything on fire this time."
Back in the present Nitz says Dash is still here isn't he? Newsome says Red Crow can't be on to him that fast. Nitz says if Red Crow wanted him dead, he'd be dead he's just lost his nerve. Dash says he knows a setup when he sees one.
Dash and Officer Falls Down about to raid. |
As they get ready to start the raid we get a flashback to a wintry scene from Dash's youth. The tribe are carrying out an execution on a murderer and Gina forces Dash to keep looking at the bloodstained body telling him to think about that anytime he feels like picking up a gun.
He keeps flashing back as he and Falls Down smash down the door of the supposed meth lab. Inside the armed men open fire on them. There is chaos but amazingly Dash and Falls Down gain the upper hand. Then Falls Down takes a bullet and drops leaving just Dash, he does some double gun firing while leaping sideways and finally takes the last man out as his guns run out of bullets.
The ambulance comes to collect Falls Down who is still alive despite taking a bullet to the chest. Dash asks if he thinks Red Crow set them up. Falls Down has no doubt he did, "what're gonna do about it?" And in the present Nitz asks what Dash did? Did he attack Red Crow? Dash says he didn't do nothing to nobody. He just needed to talk to the motherfucker is all.
Seven hours ago. Dash knocks down the men standing guard outside Red Crow's council room. Dash comes up behind him and holds a gun to Red Crow's head. Dash demands to know why they were set up, but Red Crow doesn't admit to that. Dash says not to test him, he's shot unarmed men in the back before. Red Crow says if he wanted him dead, he would be dead.
Dash tries to threaten Red Crow. |
Outside, Gina comes over to Dash and tries to talk to him but he brushes her off and picks up a call to go to a domestic disturbance on Fools Crow Road. There a Dash arrests a man for hitting his wife. Dino says he hadn't seen moves like Dash used since Tekken 5 (a fighting videogame). He asks Dash where he's been all these years and could he teach him some of those kickass moves. Dash just drives off with the arrested man.
He sees another car and races madly after it getting it to pull over. Inside is Carol, she has a black eye. Dash demands to know where her husband is, Carol just says he gets crazy jealous "he might hurt you". She then asks if they can forget her husband for a minute and she stretches out the car window and kisses Dash, then drives off. Watching over all this is Catcher on Festus.
Catcher is always watching. |
In the present Nitz asks about Lister, Dash says he never heard of him before. Nitz thinks they were gunning for Falls Down and Dash just got in the way. Or maybe it was Red Crow testing his mettle. Or maybe it was a warning about staying away from his daughter. Dash pretends he's never heard of her, but Nitz sees through the lie.
Dash then says he wants out. But Nitz threatens him by saying he'll send him back to "bumfuck Alabama" where he'll spend his days rounding up redneck cockfighters and inbred whores. Dash says yes please. Nitz yells when he brings him Red Crows "grimy fucking melon on a plate then you can piss off to oblivion for all I care." But for now he's to stop whining and do his job.
Nitz: "Or have you forgotten what I can do to you... with one fucking phone call?"
He then says he doesn't understand what Dash's problem is, he's going undercover as himself. Angrily Dash drives off. Newsome asks how such an arrogant punk got hooked up with the bureau? Nitz says he's stubborn, reckless, out of control, a borderline sociopath with an unconcious death wish and a definite danger to those around him. "He's fucking perfect" finishes Nitz.
Watching up on a ridge behind them is Catcher and Festus. Catcher tells Festus he's not as dumb as you think I am. "Them Thunder Beings ain't never yet lied to me yet. No siree bob." He contemplates some more then says that he's looking at a "Goddamn shitstorm" and that brings this first arc to an end.
HOKA HEY: We begin in the past, thirty years ago on June 20th 1975. Two FBI agents lie with bullet wounds in them. A young man is checking them and tells Gina they are both dead as Gina vomits. He says the place will be swarming with agents because of this. Gina recovers somewhat and yells that she said "no fucking firing. Goddamit! This is his goddamn fault.."
That fateful day in 1975. |
Gina: "My God. Listen to you Lincoln. You've actually started to buy your own 'noble savage' bullshit, haven't you? Only you're still the same two-bot hustler that you've always been. You just dress better now is all."
He retorts that she's a blind and bitter old hag. She's trying to take them back to the 70's when the rez was a shooting gallery.
Gina says she was wondering if he still remembered those days. He tries to reason with her saying she fought a good fight but the casino is opening in nine days and her safety is out of his hands now, "just walk the fuck away." She angrily asks him what about a man called "Lawrence Belcourt" who is rotting away in prison for two murders he didn't commit. He was the younger guy in the flashback.
She supposes a big shot like Red Crow doesn't remember a little thing like Lawrence or that day in 1975. Red Crow yells that he remembers everything about that day. Gina tells him that Lawrence has exhausted his final appeal he's going to spend the rest of his life in jail. She's going up to Kansas to see him so she won't spoil the opening of the casino. But she will come back and reclaim everything he has stolen from the rez and from her. Red Crow says he didn't steal her son from her and if she doesn't believe him, speak to Dash himself.
Gina looks for Dash. |
Inside the casino, Dash returns and is told by Dino that his mother was there asking after him. Dash ignores him and heads for Red Crow's office. Red Crow asks where the hell he's been? Dash says "nowhere". Red Crow says this "nowhere" wouldn't happen to be anywhere near his daughter Carol? Dash deflects, and Red Crow asks what Dash is doing to help protect his ninety-seven million dollar casino.
Later Dash is back watching Carol having sex with another man. Over the radio he is told his mother called again. We then return to the casino, Gina is asking after Dash again. The bartender says they don't open for another week, but he can take a message for him. She starts to say something and is overwhelmed by memories of him briefly, then just says to tell him she was here, "just tell him I wanted to see him". We then see Dash heading for the man Carol was having sex with.
Dash spying on Carol. |
The last chapter begins in a pub in the past again. It's 1975 and Red Crow, Gina (with a very small Dash) and Catcher are celebrating beating the rap on a double murder. Red Crow gleefully says that there were no murder weapons, no eye witness testimony, the only chance the FBI had was turning them against each other. But "we stayed true. We beat the motherfuckers."
Red Crow: "So here's to the Dog Soldiers, now and forever. The sewage of Europe does not flow in these veins!"
Gina is less than enthused and says she and Dash are leaving as soon as her boyfriend Wade, Dash's dad, comes back from the bathroom. Catcher doesn't drink either so Red Crow imbibes alone.
Back in '75, a vendetta begins. |
Then Nitz tells them that they picked up Lawrence Belcourt and after todays events they are going to charge him with both murders. Gina says that's bullshit, Lawrence is just a kid who never fired a shot that day. Nitz says he knows that but when he is done, Lawrence will "look like the biggest goddamn criminal mastermind since Nixon". And it's all on their heads. He leaves telling them that this isn't finished until he finds a way to finish it and trust him, he'll find a way, no matter how long it takes. And we cut to the present with him pissing on an advert for the new casino saying to himself, "I'm still the one gonna finish it".
It's opening day for the casino, Red Crow is meeting the press who are asking how he justifies a casino on a rez where the average yearly income is three thousand dollars a year, and overturning prohibition on a rez which has the highest rate of alchoholism in the nation, and also that he's been accused of embezzling funds to line his own pockets. Before Red Crow can answer, Carol comes raging up and yells "go fuck yourself!"
She slaps him saying he has no say in who she fucks and that sending his goons to beat up whoever he has sex with isn't going to make her his daughter again. She screams to call off whoever is following her around and get him off her fucking ass. Red Crow tells his flunkies to get her out of her then find him Dash.
Dash drowns his sorrows. |
He says he was thirteen when he left this shithole rez behind and he never looked back. The bartender says well he's here now isn't he? Maybe it was a woman who brought him back. "Not quite" responds Dash. And that sends us into another flashback. Nitz is at the FBI academy. He's being told that Dash isn't fit to be an FBI field agent but he says if he doesn't get him, Nitz will resign effective immediately.
He says that if it's his mother being a member of a domestic terrorist group that's the problem, he hasn't seen her in ten years. Since she sent him away, he's kept himself busy. Playing football, training in Jeet Kune Do, taking part in unlicensed boxing tournaments and finally in the military stationed in Kosovo. Nitz says he's come to the FBI because he belongs home on the range not marking targets for Tomahawk missiles.
They'll start him off in the Deep South "then when he's ready, when he's got a little gravel in his guts.... ya give him to me" says Nitz. One of the others there asks Nitz if he is still trying to settle old scores and Nitz says he is. It is noted that Dash changed his second name to Bradford and said he absolutely did not want to work on an Indian rez.
Nitz: "He'll do it, because deep down, he can't wait to do it. 'Cause waht's this all for if he can't go home to show his mother just exactly what he's become? So let him talk all he wants about how he hates being an Indian, because deep down, I'm tellin' ya... Dashiell Bad Horse is dyin' to get back to that rez."
And we return to the present and Dash is in Carol's house where she is in bed with two men. He pulls a gun and tells them to get out and Carol realises that it's been Dash following her around all this time.
He asks where her husband is and she says out of town and does her dad know he's doing this? She sneers that's she's touched by his personal campaign to make her monogamous. Then she tells him to get the hell out. He grabs her and slams her against the wall. She says does he wanna hit her, how original. He says he wants her out of his face. She says he's the one who broke into her house.
Sexy times! |
We finish with Catcher, completely naked, coming out of a sweat lodge speaking to the Thunder Beings. He asks for his strength to be restored to walk the soft earth and stride the black road once again. He goes into his trailer and his wall of newspaper clippings about his friends from long ago. Asking what hope they have now they are all so far apart. And the final image is of Gina Bad Horse's dead body lying in a huge pool of blood.
Gina, murdered. |
So is Lawrence Boucourt Leonard Peltier then?
ReplyDeleteWow, love this. So many things to unpack.
I'll start with the simple stuff. The artwork reminds me of that early 90s Brit comic stuff around the time of Warrior and Crisis. In fact the nearest analog is that Button Man series (think you know that one). It sort of suits the mood and tone of the series here. Grim and squalid. Just like the Rez.
I think they've done a good job with the characterisation. Avoiding the clichés but at the same time reflecting how modern Indian life carries the baggage of those same clichés.
The issues seem very realistic. As does the way in which they're dealt. The bog bad is well portrayed and, much as he's a bit of a bastard, I like that he does have a point. It would have been very easy to go down to the noble savage route, but why shouldn't Indians be as sleazy and capitalist as any 'western' villains or heroes.
Nice twist with Dash being an FBI agent. And it's an interesting quirk that as said, he's essentially undercover as himself.
Also JKD. Cool.
Yup, this is great.
Lots more thoughts to come.
As I was reading I had two recurring thoughts:
ReplyDelete1) Well, Jason Aaron sure likes to write mysteries.
2) Maaaaan I want the Jason Aaron back who didn't yet forget to move the plot.
@Alan: I thought you'd enjoy this. The art is superb as you say does have that quality about it, and I think that as the series goes along it gets even better.
ReplyDeleteRed Crow is a fascinating character (though for me in some ways Nitz is a joint Big Bad of the series) and gets a lot of development and exploration. I do like how Gina accuses him of thinking he's a "noble savage" when he's nothing like it, taking that trope, acknowledging it then stamping on it.
In a way it's a shame Gina dies so early on, although obviously her death is an important part of the on-going plot by design. As for female characters, Carol goes on an interesting journey in the latter half of the series and we get to meet the rez resident wise woman in the next volume.
@Maltitia: What stuff does Jason Aaron write now? This is all I've read of his.
Just dragging myself to the boxing gym, despite staring longingly at my bed. But will hopefully be pontificating later.
ReplyDeleteCool, cool. Look forward to it :)
ReplyDeleteWhat does Aaron write...
ReplyDeleteAt Marvel he is the ongoing writer on Thor since forever, I mean, ugh... 2012, I think. He also did Doctor Strange till fairly recently. And he'll do the Legacy initiative starting one shot. (Earlier he did a whole bunch of stuff, including the Original Sin event and a fairly liked run on Ghost Rider.)
On the creator owned (Image) side I heard about Southern Bastards (that's apparently about a corrupt town), and The Goddamned (Bible fanfic about humanity pre-flood... if his Ghost Rider, and occasionally Thor, wouldn't be enough indication for his penchant for blasphemy).
When I complain about him not moving the plot that's explicitly about his Thor. He is very comfortable writing that comic so he just keeps adding more and more (mostly cool) stuff without meaningfully resolving the plotlines he already has, which annoys me to no end.
ReplyDeleteScalped finished in 2012 so he must have gone straight from that to Thor. That's quite a leap in genres!
ReplyDeleteI know what you mean about adding more while not resolving what you have already. One of the reasons I love Saga so much is that it doesn't do that, things get resolved, new stuff happens, people disappear for a while then return when events pick them up again. I think the TV Tropes name for ever more complicated unresolved stories is "Kudzu Plot".
"without meaningfully resolving the plotlines he already has"
ReplyDeleteIsn't that the Chris Carter effect or something?
I obviously have little first hand of Indian life, but it's a culture(s) that I find really interesting. Of course the first thing to acknowledge is that Indian culture is no more homogeneous than western culture is (using western in the convenient but inaccurate sense). But there's all the animism and megalithic stuff; and the legal systems are really interesting. You've probably seen me bang on on Mammoth about how the US constitution was ripped off the Iroquois Confederacy one. Although their electoral college only allowed women. They also had a thing that men held titles but only through their wives or mothers because power passed matrilinearly. So an accurate representation should have good women characters.
That's why it's so sad now to see them squeezed onto 2.6% of the land they originally occupied. Really they've been fucked over by everybody. Even Obama vetoed Leonard Peltier's pardon at the behest of the FBI. So I do have some sympathy with Red Crow's 'fuck the white man' plans.
But it's also good that they've avoided the Ferngully crap. Modern Indians are just that, modern. They may do the 'Generikee' bit for the tourist trade. But they're not museum Fremen.
The relationship with the FBI is a fraught one. So it'll be interesting to see how that develops.
My arms are dropping off a bit at the moment (that bag won't mess with *me* again) but there's a lot of amazing stuff bubbling in my brain thanks to this story. Looking forward to chatting further.
Oh, not Chris Carter (what's that then?)
ReplyDeleteWell, his very first arc on Thor involved a serial killer. Sooo... yeah... at least the mystery thing he brought with him. ^^;
ReplyDelete(And his Ghost Rider was 2008 or so.)
I think the Chris Carter effect is extending and extending and extending the same plot rather than swamping you with many sub ones.
ReplyDeleteIt's always hard for me to discuss the start of these looks at a single series as obviously I know how things are going to pan out, but the story does a great mixture of real Lakota Sioux myth and ancient beliefs and the cruddy reality of a life on the poorest rez in the US. And an interesting look at a big generation gap with so many of the younger characters wanting nothing to do with their parents beliefs. And yet...
I'll say it straight out, Nitz is a loathesome character and even a couple of "Day In The Limelight" stories looking into his character more closely don't make him any more sympathetic. While Red Crow is a monster too, who has killed many people to get his casino, he's definitely a more complex person.
"who has killed many people to get his casino"
ReplyDeleteEh? How else do you set up a new business? It's not like there's the Enterprise Allowance scheme any more.
There's definitely a different tone to your blog posts when you do or do not know what's coming next. I quite like both approaches. It's fun to journey and discover together; but you do.some nice foreshadowing when you're omnipotent narrator.
In many ways there's no more reason for a young Indian to follow the old cultures and religion than for a young Londoner to wear a bowler hat and be a commuted member of the CoE. Although oppression can be a way of stimulating an interest in cultural identity. And I like that Indian kids do at least now, in some places, get an opportunity to learn about their heritage. It's a dilemma of course with the tension between respecting a culture but not creating some sort of segregation or exclusion. Funnily enough forced integration and assimilation is itself a war crime.
I like the irony that scalping features so heavily in this. Does the series point out scalping was a practice of white settlers back in the days there were bounties for killing Indians? It was how you proved you'd killed one.
I am the ALL KNOWING!
ReplyDeleteThat's an interesting comparison about when following tradition is neccesary or not. I think it's something a lot of kids that are several generations removed struggle with like Asian kids here in the UK. I suppose the difference is the Indians are still situated on their ancestral lands which must make a difference. Still it's notable how we get three younger Indians, Dash, Carol and Dino (he becomes a larger character in future books) who are rebelling against the traditionalist families they have.
That doesn't ring a bell about the origin on scalping, but the text is very dense in places and I may have missed it so if it is mentioned I'll pick it up when writing the post. Another tease, two scalps feature as being very important to one of the plots and ties into another as well.
I feel the urge to bow to you and chant 'Uvavu' or something.
ReplyDeleteIndians certainly engaged in scalping themselves. It's a practice that's arisen independently in many cultures. King Harald was a big fan.
It's funny how young people, especially when a community becomes marginalised, can be more 'cultural' than their elders. Iran's perhaps a good example. Before the coup after the west reinstalled the Shah, Iranians were very secular and westernised. Iran used to be famous for nightclubs. It was the radicalised students who went all old school pius.
Being from Bradford I obviously have a fair few Asian friends, and indeed relatives through marriage. Pakistani Muslim and Irish Catholic, what a combo (fish and chips if you were wondering about the reception). But it seems it's only the very recent kids who've got right into the culture. Everybody my age is just Yorkshire.
If you can track it down I really recommend Rich Hall's 'Inventing the Indian' for an overview of the perceptions about Indian culture. It's also very funny as well as informative.
There's a real grittiness to this story that I'm already enjoying. I'm very interested in how it develops.
Although I'm now very tempted to re-read that Wilde Knight comic. Actually, whilst it's terribly stereotyped in some (ok, all) respects, it's very apposite, as it involves our buckskin bikini'd heroine taking on neo Nazis.
Btw, do you ever use Discord? I've started putting up some self defence stuff on the Mammoth one. Would welcome your input.
I don't know what Discord is.
ReplyDeleteI spent the best part of a decade living in Easton, Bristol and Rusholme, Manchester so had a fair few Muslim mates. They always seemed to find a way to balance faith and culture with being integrated citizens. I know there is a radicalisation problem in Manchester but that seems to be more a male thing than a religious thing if you see what I mean. They seem to be very like the people we read about on Mammoth.
I think you'll keep enjoying the series as it unfurls, it really feels like the writer has done meticulous research.
Discord is a chat app "for gamers"! I feel like I'm using it under false pretences. But basically the Mammoth one has been set up so we can continue some of our more off topic discussions without swamping or derailing the actual Mammoth board.
ReplyDeleteOh we could talk for days about radicalisation. But yeah, there's a major overlap between the various disparate groups. Fundamentally it's just reaching out to those who somehow feel at a loss and giving them a surrogate family, a cause, and a target to vent their rage at.
But to relate to the cultural thing. It's almost a joke, but true, that ISIS recruits end up buying books like Islam for Dummies. It's the underlying lack of belonging that creates the desire for identity. They don't become radicalised because they're fundamentalaists, they become fundamentalists because they're radicalised.
And as a marginalised community then it's understandable why the disaffected might harken back to the golden days when you had power. Hence the caliphate. There's a t -shirt I like that's popular with Indian girls. It's got the Calvin Kline logo, but it actually says 'Custer Killer'. I know there is a bit of a thing with some younger Indians to get a bit irate with how Indian history can be presented as one of permanent victimhood. So the trail of tears is very important but it should inspire to anger and action not sorrow and acceptance. But just as Indian culture isn't homogeneous neither are Indian people. So I like how this story reflects the complexity of not just the general situation, but the individuals involved. I think, looking back at my comments on your blog generally, that's one of my tick boxes for enjoying a series, the characters have to be nuanced. Unless they're 30s or 40s 'science heroes' then it's cliché away!
Oh I might have to take a look at that then, although right now I am spending all my time actually playing Skyrim again so I probably would be very distracted.
ReplyDeleteI did know that western recruits to ISIS are massively ignorant oftentimes. I think I read somewhere that they find the food not to their liking and still demand stuff like pizza.
There's plenty more nuance to come as the cast broadens out. I also like nuance. It's something that doesn't have to be just about gritty realistic comics. You can have Magical Girls and Squirrel Girls who are just as interesting as disaffected Indians. Also I like the sound of that T-shirt!
They have lots of cool shirts
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There's just been a series called The State about ISIS recruits that I managed to catch. It wad very good at showing the horror of the true situation and the naivity and ignorance of some of the recruits. But funnily enough one thing that I had to force myself to ignore was that the food looked really nice.
ReplyDeleteStill not going though.
This is totally off topic but look what Twitter coughed up today:
ReplyDeleteEARLY CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE BOOK!
Wow. That CYOA book is really cool. Just goes to show how there's nothing new under the Sun. I like how it even has the flowcharts.
ReplyDeleteDid they get the appropriate credit for inventing the genre? Or was it a case of parallel development?
I'd quite like to play it now.
Ah finally got a decent amount of sleep. Let's see:
ReplyDeleteThat T-shirt is awesome Alan!
Malitia, no such thing as on-topic here :P And that CYOA book show is amazing. I echo Alan's thoughts. I played the UK versions "Fighting Fantasy" and still have the first 20 or so volumes front and centre in my bookcase. They were a gateway drug to harder stuff, Warhammer and videogames and now I am an addict.
I worry a bit that you introducing me to manga might be a gateway thing. You know, you and Malitia are the cool kids, I want to impress you a bit and fit in. So when you say "It's only a bit of Dragonball, everybody's doing it" then obviously I'm gonna give in.
ReplyDeleteBut where does it end? Pretty soon Dragonball isn't enough. So you tell me about this magical girl thing that you can get for me. "It's harmless" you say "just a bit of fun. If you don't like it then you don't have to have it again"
But no, I try one episode on your blog. Feels a bit weird. Not used to this. But it's intriguing. No harm if I just check out the next post. Well now I'm liking it, and I may as well just try one last post, to see how things work out.
And now I'm huddled in a corner selling 'our Jackie's video'* just so I can score a waifu body pillow!
(*Brookside reference)
I... a cool kid? O.o *flashbacks-to-being-painfully-lonely-nerd-at-best*
ReplyDelete*steeples fingers* Excellent. Another one snared. I actually have more manga planned for next year. It's finding series that are a reasonable length and that have been released in the west too that's a bit of a pain. Still I have some up my sleeve now.
ReplyDeleteMalitia: Nerds are cool now because the likes of us blazed a trail back in the day. Which makes us the Elders of Cool *high five*
You two are well cool. And you know stuff.
ReplyDeleteDo you remember a TV series called Johnny Jarvis? That was an interesting portrayal of how someone went from being incredibly uncool at school to uber cool just as time progressed and his hobby (song writing) sort of 'caught up'. It also contained a great scene that still sticks in my mind. The eponymous Johnny (not the song writer) had a temporary flirtation with racism and tried to harrass a black lady. She was less than impressed.
"I'm a skinhead"
"You don't say"